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    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS

    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT

    KRISTIN M. PERRY, et al.,

    Plaintiffs-Appellees,

    CITY AND COUNTY OF SANFRANCISCO,

    Plaintiff-Intervenor-Appellee,

    vs.

    ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER, et al.,

    Defendants,

    DENNIS HOLLINGSWORTH, et al.

    Defendants-Intervenors-Appellants.

    No. 10-16696

    Argued December 6, 2010

    U.S. District Court

    Case No. 09-cv-02292 VRW

    PLAINTIFF-INTERVENOR-APPELLEECITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO'S REPLYTO OPPOSITION TO MOTION TO VACATE STAY

    PENDING APPEAL

    On Appeal from the United States District Courtfor the Northern District of California

    The Honorable Vaughn R. Walker

    DENNIS J. HERRERA, State Bar #139669City AttorneyTHERESE M. STEWART, State Bar#104930Chief Deputy City AttorneyVINCE CHHABRIA, State Bar#208557CHRISTINE VAN AKEN, State Bar#241755Deputy City AttorneysCity Hall, Room 234One Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett PlaceSan Francisco, California 94102-4682Telephone: (415) 554-4708

    Attorneys for Plaintiff-Intervenor-AppelleeCITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO

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    As explained in the City's opening brief, the Court may not impose a stay

    where its jurisdiction is uncertain. One would have expected Proponents to

    respond by citing a case in which an appellate court issued a stay even when

    standing was concededly uncertain. Instead, Proponents focus their attention on

    the fact that many of the cases cited by the City involved attempts by third parties

    to establish next-friend status to seek relief from death sentences on behalf of death

    row inmates. See, e.g., Demosthenes v. Baal, 495 U.S. 731, 737 (1990) ("before

    granting a stay [of execution], . . . federal courts must make certain that an

    adequate basis exists for the exercise of federal power.")As a preliminary matter, the rule articulated in Demosthenes stems from first

    principles; it did not originate with the next-friend cases. See, e.g., Steel Co. v.

    Citizens for a Better Environment, 523 U.S. 83, 94-95 (1998) ("The requirement

    that jurisdiction be established as a threshold matter 'spring[s] from the nature and

    limits of the judicial power of the United States' and is 'inflexible without

    exception.'") (quoting Mansfield, C. & L.M.R. Co. v. Swan, 111 U.S. 379, 382

    (1884)).

    In any event, far from rendering the next-friend cases irrelevant, the fact that

    they involve the execution of human beings underscores why a stay is not

    appropriate here. Indeed, the Demosthenes Court's statement about how even an

    impending execution does not allow a federal appellate court to bend its

    jurisdictional rules is worth quoting in full:

    We realize that last minute petitions from parents of death rowinmates may often be viewed sympathetically. But federalcourts are authorized by the federal habeas statutes to interferewith the course of state proceedings only in specifiedcircumstances. Before granting a stay, therefore, federal courtsmust make certain that an adequate basis exists for the exerciseof federal power. In this case, that basis was plainly lacking.The State is entitled to proceed [with the execution] withoutfederal intervention. Accordingly, we grant the State's motionto vacate the stay entered by the Court of Appeals.

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    495 U.S. at 737 (emphasis added). If jurisdictional uncertainty divests federal

    appellate courts of authority to stop a person from being put to death, surely it

    divests those courts of the ability to prevent loving same-sex couples from getting

    married, merely to prevent some amorphous injury Proponents allege they and the

    State of California would suffer. This is particularly so when 19,000 same-sex

    couples are already married in California, with no harm having been caused to

    anyone.

    Proponents are equally wrong to say that courts only refuse to issue stays

    after "definitively determin[ing] that standing was lacking." Opposition at 8. InDemosthenes itself, the Supreme Court did not conclude that the death-row inmate

    was competent to waive federal habeas proceedings; indeed the district court in

    that case had declined to hold an evidentiary hearing on the question. 495 U.S. at

    737. Rather, the district court concluded that "petitioners had failed to establish

    that the court had jurisdiction." Id. at 733 (emphasis added). Here too, as

    evidenced by this Court's decision to certify the question to the California Supreme

    Court, Proponents have thus far "failed to establish" jurisdiction, which requires

    that the stay be lifted.

    Proponents also cite Vargas v. Lambert, 159 F.3d 1161 (9th Cir. 1998), for

    the proposition that a federal appellate court may issue a stay even if its

    jurisdiction is uncertain. But Proponents neglect to mention that, the day after the

    Ninth Circuit issued its order staying the execution in Vargas, the Supreme Court

    vacated the stay in a one-sentence order. Lambert v. Vargas, 525 U.S. 925 (1998).

    Furthermore, although the passage ofVargas quoted by Proponents might be read

    to suggest the majority believed it had the power to issue a stay absent a clear

    determination of jurisdiction, other portions of the majority's opinion suggest it

    believed it could not issue a stay unless the party seeking it had actually

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    establishedstanding, which Proponents here have not done. See Vargas, 159 F.3d

    at 1167 (explaining that the applicant "has established her standing . . .").

    Finally, Proponents' suggestion that a decision to lift the stay would only

    benefit the four individuals who are parties to the case is preposterous. The district

    court enjoined the State from enforcing Proposition 8, which will cause the State to

    do exactly what it did in response to the California Supreme Court's decision in In

    Re Marriage Cases direct county clerks statewide to stop denying marriage

    licenses to same-sex couples. Thus, maintenance of the stay harms tens of

    thousands of Californians, including people like Derence Kernek and Ed Watson,who have been together for 40 years and will likely never be able to marry if the

    stay remains in place while this winds its way through the state and federal court

    system, because Mr. Watson has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease, and his

    illness is progressing rapidly.1

    At the end of the day, Proponents effectively ask the Court to create a

    "same-sex marriage" exception to the established rule that federal appellate courts

    may not issue or maintain a stay when jurisdiction is uncertain. There is nothing

    about the issue of marriage equality that requires such an extraordinary departure

    from the rules. To the contrary, this is the most important civil rights issue of our

    time, and the Court should put an immediate end to the harm this state-sponsored

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    1See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8nTy0e8mj4.

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    discrimination is inflicting upon same-sex couples, their children and their

    families.

    Dated: March 14, 2011 Respectfully submitted,

    DENNIS J. HERRERACity AttorneyTHERESE M. STEWART,Chief Deputy City AttorneyVINCE CHHABRIACHRISTINE VAN AKENDeputy City Attorneys

    By: s/Therese M. StewartTHERESE M. STEWARTChief Deputy City Attorney

    Attorneys for Plaintiff-Intervenor-AppelleeCITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO

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    9th Circuit Case Number 10-16696

    CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

    I hereby certify that I electronically filed the foregoing PLAINTIFF-INTERVENORAPPELLEE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO'S REPLY TO

    OPPOSITION TO MOTION TO VACATE STAY PENDING APPEAL with the Clerk ofthe Court for the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit by using the appellateCM/ECF system on March 14, 2011.

    Participants in the case who are registered CM/ECF users will be served by the appellateCM/ECF system.

    I further certify that some of the participants in the case are not registered CM/ECF users.I have mailed the foregoing document by First-Class Mail, postage prepaid, or have dispatched itto a third party commercial carrier for delivery within 3 calendar days to the following non-CM/ECF participants:

    Bailey, Arthur, Jr.

    HAUSFELD LLP44 Montgomery Street, Suite 3400

    San Francisco, CA 94104

    Brejcha, Thomas

    Thomas More Society29 S. La Salle Street, Suite 440

    Chicago, IL 60603

    Mateer, Jeffrey

    Liberty Institute

    2001 W Plano Parkway, Suite 1600Plano, TX 75075

    Moses, Michael F.

    United States Catholic Conference

    3211 Fourth Street, NortheastWashington, DC 02991-0194

    Oliphant, Lincoln C.

    Columbus School of LawThe Catholic University of America

    Washington, DC 20064

    Picarello, Anthony R., Jr., Attorney

    United States Catholic Conference3211 Fourth Street, Northeast

    Washington, DC 02991-0194

    Roth, Stuart J., Attorney

    AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND

    JUSTICE201 Maryland Avenue, N.E.

    Washington, DC 20002

    Staver, Mathew D., Attorney

    LIBERTY COUNSEL

    1055 Maitland Center Commons, 2nd FloorMaitland, FL 32751

    Staver, Anita L.Liberty Counsel

    P.O. Box 540774Orlando, FL 32854

    I declare under penalty of perjury pursuant to the laws of the State of California that theforegoing is true and correct. Executed March 14, 2011, at San Francisco, California.

    s/Pamela CheeseboroughPamela Cheeseborough

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